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welcome to the center of life radio with

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spiritual teacher intuitive musician

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composer and best-selling author of the

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divine principle anchoring heaven on

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earth your host keith anthony blanchard

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coast to coast podopol all around the

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world on the internet thanks to the

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marvel of technology i'm coming at you

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live from a little guest house in

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memphis tennessee this is keith anthony

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blanche and you're listening to center

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of light radio center of divine

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unfoldment and reinforcement radio for

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the soul and the transformation station

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strap in all my brother and sister

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astral

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knots as we launch for inner space

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i want to give a quick announcement that

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suanji visual yogi is going to be here

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like the third week of september swamiji

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visual yogi is a god realized man from

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india i had the blessed opportunity to

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oper to interview him three times and

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when you're standing in the presence of

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someone there's a powerhouse like this

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it consumes everything around you and

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the information you get on multiple

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levels multi-dimensional levels uh is

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can be get really rich really quick so

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stay tuned for that interview i will

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give more details on the next couple of

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weeks as we'll get closer to

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that interview with swamiji viswayogi

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listening audience listen up this is

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what center of light radio is about i've

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been doing some research i got i got an

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email sometime back from heather uh my

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guest tonight and alan asking to be a

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guest on center of light radio and i

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recently done some uh research

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and i listened to one of heather's

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presentations and let me tell you i was

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floored i was wild this is what center

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of light radio is about this is why i do

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what i do is so i can be able to do what

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my guests tonight do it's about having

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those divine mystical experiences that

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helps to amalgamate one in unity

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consciousness with god and i'm sure

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you're going to be absolutely blown away

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like i

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was the other day when i did my research

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so we're going to get right down to the

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show in other words it's time to get

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down to sin of light radio

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business

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heather jamboy and alan feldman have

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practiced an advanced form of soul

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projection for over 20 to 30 years in

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this interview they will discuss a true

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ancient chess extraterrestrial past life

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and how ancient e.t spiritual elders and

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saints taught their students

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through a spiritual apprenticeship how

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to master intriguing galactic and soul

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spiritual soul projection to the plains

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dimensions planets and heavenly

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universes to become god aware spiritual

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masters themselves you can find more

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dot www.soultravelagent.com heather and

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alan welcome to center of light radio

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nice to meet you keith

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thank you so much

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absolutely absolutely and um if everyone

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would if you hear a fan noise in the

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back it's because of my phenomenal guest

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mr alan feldman has to have this going

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on so what i would invite you to do uh

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when you feel the time is right let's go

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inside and send him some love and light

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that's what we're about as well right

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so i guess i'm gonna start with heather

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ladies first

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heather how did you

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allen or um were you guys both designed

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to meet as to why you're married just

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god if there is a god show me a real

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on my journey um

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of course i met i met alan

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in in a way that was no accident and um

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we began to compose a book together um

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about our out-of-body experiences you

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body travel for over 20 years and he has

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sudden flash of what are called the soul

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records on the soul plane which is a

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past life we both shared together

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very moving what we saw we saw in great

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about our spiritual lives

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we both learned in that particular past

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life it was on a planet called series

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let's let's go back just a little bit

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how did you even though you met alan and

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space like you have such passion and

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sincerity it happened

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divinely realms when did this happen and

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how did it happen did y'all just did

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allen teach you this allen was this

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something you imparted to heather and

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it's very contagious i'm kidding

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now she had her he had her experiences

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so what is what is a technique that you

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guys use to help launch you into these

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different dimensions and planes and

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sure who wants to ever you can talk

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um if you'd like we could share a couple

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that would be great one of those i just

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and um listening to lectures and stuff

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experiences as you alluded to keith

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from um it's not a religion first of all

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is that we show it's a path of

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i mean if you look at the ancient

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explorers

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columbus and how did they map out the

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there's people that are spiritual

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who have been able to go into these

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who've gone to different

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planes and they've mapped these out it's

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so it's not a dogmatic path where you're

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you're told something and you told the

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bullet have faith and believe it

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it's something where the spiritual

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travelers come and they tell man

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what's out there and how to reach it but

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then you have to have your own

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of out-of-body soul projection though

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it's a science

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so there are exercises you can do

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in addition to reading and studying

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and that's where the that's the proof is

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in the pudding to have these actual

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experiences what you find is that they

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are mappable that you can

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through the through the help of the

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spiritual travels you can figure out

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where you are

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so is there an exercise that you can

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share that you think

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might help uh yes because i'm over here

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there's a couple of them i mean there's

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a lot of exercises but i'll give you a

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couple of real simple ones and there's a

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reason why i'm giving you at least two

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uh the first one

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is sort of like getting the nutcrack

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open so it's a basic technique it's not

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an advanced technique

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but it can kind of it's sort of like

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if a bolt is all rusted shut

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and you can't get it open you sort of

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like have to hit it with a hammer a few

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times and maybe spray some oil on it

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so if somebody's kind of stuck in their

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body or they're kind of in a rut

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this is a simple exercise not very

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advanced but it works really well

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and it's simple so

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if you want anybody that wants to

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practice it they can do it right now

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so what you basically do is hopefully if

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you have a chair you sit down

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and notice the room you're in

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like notice behind you

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like the furniture and everything around

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you with your physical eyes you look

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take a look at it

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and now what you do

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is you imagine a point

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about four feet

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behind your head

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and you jump in the soul body to that

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point so you're looking

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behind yourself and your physical body

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so you deliberately project yourself to

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that focal point

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right so now you're looking behind your

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head

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and you just put your retention that

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that area behind your head almost like a

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and what you can do now you can

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there are ways of making it easier you

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can chant the word hue which is

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pronounced um

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like he was in the color hue

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and the way we usually do it is we'll do

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the h separate so we'll go h

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and then draw out the u

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so it's spelled hu

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and so you might close your eyes

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and

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take a few deep breaths

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and then you chant

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age

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you

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five six times seven times whatever

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feels comfortable

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and then you can try jumping and jumping

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out of your

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jumping to this

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this point about four feet behind you

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and you'll see

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um

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your physical body to the back of your

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head now at that point

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you're out of your body you're not that

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far out of your body that you're out of

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your body

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for sure because you placed your

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attention there and now from there

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you can

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hover up above the ceiling look down you

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can visit you can go someplace

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in the physical

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world

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you can meet a particular master

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um

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so that's sort of just an exercise to

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get your to get you loosened up

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and one of the significances of learning

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soul projection or more advanced form of

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out of body travel

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is that its purpose is

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to actually

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god so we're not doing it just for

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entertainment or you know from some

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frivolous thing to

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of that nature but the purpose is

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actually to return to god and to

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spiritual freedom right um

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uh this is a weird kind of

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understanding but um 99.8

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of souls in the lower worlds including

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earth and other planets are not

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spiritually free

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but the illusions are so powerful like

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the movie matrix they're so incredible

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my absolute favorite movie

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yeah it's interesting

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um because it's such a perfect analogy

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for for the way

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the spiritual matrix in the lower world

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sect guess what hollywood

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i'm here

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hollywood's got a new host

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and the stars are shining bright on

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steam it'd be okay to just come here

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every day for that

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today premiere week continues with ice

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cube plus baseball's rally granny makes

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the crowd go wild you've never seen

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anything like this before

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all new steve

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new york weekdays at 2 on nbc 4 new york

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actually behaves it what's interesting

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oh i'm sorry no no it's okay what's

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interesting about the matrix yeah we

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like we look at a lot too

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is that if you notice in that movie

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neo

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goes through this paradigm shift

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and he realizes the unreality of

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of this illusion

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but it's like he jumps into another

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paradigm but he's still under illusion

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it's almost like you're in a tiny closet

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and then you leave the closet you go

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into a bedroom

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so you've expanded your your your

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freedom but you're still in a bedroom

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and trapped in that

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larger matrix so to speak

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and this is the nature of these

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different planes is that

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they get bigger and bigger you have more

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and more freedom it's less and less

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matter and more and more spirit

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but it's still

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a prison so it's just a bigger prison

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cell

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and so what one of the things we've

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learned in garden car

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is how to when we map out these

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different planes and we have a chart

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that kind of gives you an idea of what

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we're talking

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the about website

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you'll see a chart

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that shows you know these different

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planes

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and um so you can once you start to

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understand

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that

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there's there's no real common language

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amongst

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people that are into spiritual subject

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matter or metaphysics or you know people

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that are in metaphysics within religion

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or they're into

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into new age um

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different paths astral projection

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whatever you want to call it there's no

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common language

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and so there's a lot of confusion but

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once you start to understand

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how it works how these different planes

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are like traps inside of traps kind of

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like a prison you have the cell that the

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inmate's in but then when he gets out of

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that he's in the courtyard but then when

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he gets out of that you know it's like

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walls inside walls inside walls

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and so somebody escapes their prison

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cell but they're still in the prison

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still on prison grounds right right

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yeah

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so they really haven't escaped the

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prison they've escaped the cell

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and then of course they find them it

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almost reminds me of like an onion that

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has different layers and she's brought

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this analogy up before where like in the

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matrix

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he wakes up from one layer and then he

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finds himself in another but he feels

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like he's totally woken up in a sense

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that happens a lot um

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that could be a dangerous trap that when

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one thinks they're actually liberated

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that they just get complacent and they

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stay and play in this particular plane

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for however long

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and here could be thousands of years

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exactly what happens actually and it

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happens to

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countless souls is it's just like the

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matrix in the matrix he he in a sense is

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work way almost like waking up to astral

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consciousness the astral plane is like

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the invisible world when people develop

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psychic abilities suddenly they can see

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this invisible world and they're like

501
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wow i woke up

502
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but what a lot of people don't realize

503
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is that they've woken up to like the

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first layer of the onion and it's so

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beautiful and profound and they can see

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angels and they can see heavenly sights

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and wonders but there are many layers to

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this sort of onion or matrix and what

509
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makes it even more complicated is simple

510
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similar to the physical plane

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for example in the in the earth let's

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take something really tiny like the

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earth

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you know we have different experiences

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on the earth like you could be in hawaii

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and you could be lying in a hammock you

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know or next to a waterfall

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and you could feel like it's just

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amazingly beautiful and serene and happy

520
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or you could be in the middle of a

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desert in a war-torn desert where you've

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got machine gun fire

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and it's hot extremely hot

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and barren and just very

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unpleasant and yet those are all parts

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of the earth

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and so the astral plane has many

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sub-regions

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you see so it gets complicated so

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there's a spiritual law

531
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which is that a master a spiritual

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master cannot take his chilas or

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students

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any farther than he has actually gone

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00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:45,039
himself

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00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:46,960
so if you're studying with a teacher or

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guru or master

538
00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:50,480
anybody like that if they haven't

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reached

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beyond let's say the mid-astral plane

541
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gonna be able to take you further than

542
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:57,679
that there's there are many people that

543
00:20:02,390 --> 00:19:59,760
will have these incredible experiences

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00:20:04,390 --> 00:20:02,400
in the astral plane or the mental plane

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00:20:06,150 --> 00:20:04,400
and it'll be so profound that they will

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00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:06,160
think that they reached god realization

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or self-realization when it's sort of

548
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like they've reached sort of like an

549
00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:12,880
astral enlightenment or a certain

550
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experience on one of these subplanes

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um

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00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:18,640
but it's you know it's sort of like a

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00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,520
journey and that's why we we've found it

554
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,440
vital we've worked with these very

555
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ancient masters

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00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,520
um just like we learned on series there

557
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,440
were these ancient masters millions of

558
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years ago and they they would take their

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students under their wing as sort of

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like a spiritual apprenticeship

561
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,840
and teach them this galactic and

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00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:39,440
spiritual wisdom

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00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:41,679
of learning you know the process of

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00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:44,000
learning to leave the physical body and

565
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:46,240
dwell in these heavenly planes and

566
00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:50,559
dimensions or um realms and and you know

567
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:51,760
universes

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00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:54,000
and so it's it's a whole process of

569
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spiritual unfoldment because the goal

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00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:58,320
is to

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00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:01,280
graduating from reincarnation

572
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:03,919
and to achieve this a very high level of

573
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,440
spiritual liberation where the person

574
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:07,280
doesn't have to reincarnate anymore

575
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:08,880
unless they want to

576
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:10,960
and they become sort of you could say a

577
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:13,120
direct agent of god or a direct

578
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,360
co-worker with god and

579
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,440
it's significant because these

580
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,360
these ancient masters

581
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:21,520
um like the ancient masters i've spoken

582
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:23,760
of about planet series

583
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:26,240
um they work one-on-one with their

584
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:29,039
students and sort of like teach them all

585
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:30,799
of the different steps

586
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:33,120
of unfolding themselves spiritually

587
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:35,039
and it's a process and it it's a

588
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:36,880
difficult process

589
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,200
i find it kind of amusing that

590
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,520
people recognize that anything that's

591
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,679
difficult takes a teacher

592
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:45,360
you know you wouldn't want to say you're

593
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:47,039
you want to be a brain surgeon but

594
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,559
you're going to learn it on your own i

595
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,240
mean anybody that has any kind of

596
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:52,000
intelligence would say well maybe i need

597
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:52,799
some

598
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:55,520
people to help me learn brain surgery

599
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:57,280
so you're looking at something as well

600
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:58,720
it's the most difficult thing anyone

601
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:59,760
will do

602
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,919
is to reach these higher states

603
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:03,840
it can be done in a single lifetime but

604
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:05,679
it's certainly not something that's as

605
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:07,039
easy as let's say learning to play the

606
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,600
guitar or learning to sing or when you

607
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,960
play playing i can tell you learning to

608
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:13,280
play guitar took me

609
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:14,720
maybe

610
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:15,520
years

611
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,520
exactly let me ask you a question let me

612
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,960
ask you guys a question

613
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:20,880
i i have

614
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:23,760
stepped in these arenas quite often in

615
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,400
my life not so much at will and that's

616
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,799
why i'm really passionate in hanging on

617
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:30,640
every word that you are saying both of

618
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,760
you i remember uh having um i was

619
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,600
conscious i was lucid but i was in a

620
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,280
castle and his castle felt something

621
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:39,520
like it was it had a dark luminous feel

622
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,159
to it and these two beautiful naked

623
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:44,080
voluptuous women were trying to seduce

624
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,799
me

625
00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:47,280
and when i scanned them from toe to head

626
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:49,520
um they had a cat looking face and it

627
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,280
did it didn't feel right

628
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:53,200
and i started to walk away and they said

629
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:54,480
where are you going i said i'm going

630
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,840
outside and said you don't want to go in

631
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:57,679
the sun the sun is going to burn you

632
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,559
said that's exactly why i'm doing it so

633
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,640
so when i walked outside so when i

634
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,480
walked outside i began to feel this

635
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:06,720
purifying fire it would it burned but it

636
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:10,000
wasn't painful and i i blacked out i was

637
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,159
i found myself coming to laying on my

638
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,240
back in a metal and when i opened my

639
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,880
eyes in this meadow uh there was a very

640
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:18,159
tall cross

641
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,600
and i remember

642
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:21,200
and keep in mind this was in black and

643
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,960
white and probably imply in my past

644
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,120
and i began to do this sit-up type

645
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,679
crunch thing and i yelled out this one

646
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,400
long drone mantra and the word was love

647
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:34,240
and as i and i did that sit-up crunch

648
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,520
and as i did that

649
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:37,679
i can hear

650
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:41,360
everything from my past ever spoken

651
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,880
everything ever heard in one of my ears

652
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,120
just passing by very fastly and in my

653
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:47,120
third eye i saw images since the

654
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:49,360
beginning of my life to that point and i

655
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,080
left my body i went through a wormhole

656
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,320
and when i got out of this wormhole i

657
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:56,960
was in an absolute void

658
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:00,000
and in this void even though it was dark

659
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:03,360
i can see because it was my awareness

660
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,760
that was illuminating this void

661
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:07,840
and i was prompted to look above me and

662
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,159
i did and there was these 12 angels now

663
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:12,080
i don't know if they were very very tall

664
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:14,000
and far away or they were average size

665
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,520
and somewhat close but they begin this

666
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:17,120
maypole dance in this circle kind of

667
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,960
thing and then they switched off and in

668
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:21,120
their swishing i was pulled into the

669
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,799
current and i brought i was brought

670
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:24,000
through layer through layer through

671
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,799
layer until i stopped and when i stopped

672
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:28,080
i knew

673
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,520
and it wasn't keith

674
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,200
imagining or

675
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,520
contriving i knew this was what we call

676
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,520
the godhead

677
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:37,520
and

678
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,480
the reason i stopped is because i'm the

679
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,480
one that had a thought

680
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,720
my thought is what stopped me it's what

681
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:46,640
separated me

682
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:47,520
from

683
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,720
it but anyway they gave me a glimpse and

684
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,360
when the curtain was pulled back oh my

685
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:55,840
god the only way i could describe it is

686
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:58,240
kind of like in the matrix two do you

687
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,600
remember when they were in the caverns

688
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:01,360
and they were doing that tribal dance of

689
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,960
celebratory and

690
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,799
it felt just like that and they said

691
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:06,880
keith you're welcome to come in here and

692
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:09,679
in that moment i chose not to because i

693
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,960
wasn't per se afraid of physically dying

694
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,360
i just knew that my identity everything

695
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,840
i thought was right wrong good bad hot

696
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:19,360
cold that was all just gonna be

697
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,080
shattered and i wasn't quite ready for

698
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:24,240
that so would you both say that

699
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:25,760
doing the

700
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,360
exploration that you do not only does it

701
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:31,760
help alleviate one's identity to the

702
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:34,400
body and physical death but it also

703
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:41,029
it actually what you just said is

704
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,159
significant it creates when you when you

705
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,200
shift just out of body travel to actual

706
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:49,440
soul projection with the masters

707
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:51,760
you shift to this burning desire to

708
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:55,120
return to god to we call hurray

709
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:58,240
um and and this desire

710
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,120
uh

711
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:00,960
sort of like is like a fire we call it

712
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,000
like the holy fire of god and it and it

713
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:06,080
creates such a profound and deep feeling

714
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,279
of love for all life and for god

715
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,400
that one feels compelled like a rocket

716
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,960
to work towards

717
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:16,080
that goal

718
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:19,279
to study to learn to leave the physical

719
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:21,760
body it's not necessarily an easy thing

720
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,320
to go through the spiritual tests or

721
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:27,039
testing that is required

722
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:30,240
to move to the higher levels and

723
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,679
and yes ultimately it is out of body

724
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,919
travel the whole entire purpose is to

725
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,400
unite with the godhead

726
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,640
directly into the ocean of love and

727
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,840
mercy

728
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:43,760
which is a world of such great

729
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:45,279
luminosity

730
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:48,240
and light and sound that it it is very

731
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:50,799
profound

732
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:52,720
when somebody reaches that point they

733
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,000
reach uh what is called god realization

734
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:58,559
but i have to i have to add that sure

735
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:01,520
it's not so much

736
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,520
it's deceiving because you're

737
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,279
you're really you never lose your

738
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:07,200
individuality

739
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:09,440
right so you beca you become a conscious

740
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,559
co-worker so

741
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,919
it's deceiving because a lot of people

742
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,080
when they hear unite with the godhead

743
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,159
they think in terms of nirvana or they

744
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,640
think in terms of what they call cosmic

745
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,480
consciousness

746
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:24,559
but this is way way beyond cosmic

747
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,080
consciousness where you become passive

748
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:30,480
this is this is something where

749
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:32,400
it's indescribable

750
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:35,520
but you become this conscious agent

751
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,640
and you you maintain your individuality

752
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,559
and yet you have the realization of god

753
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,559
you see the face of god which of course

754
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:44,960
is not male or female i use the analogy

755
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:45,919
often

756
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:49,360
when i do talks about out of body travel

757
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:51,039
or not not necessarily autobody travel

758
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,159
but who you really are and we're we can

759
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,799
liken this to looking at the hand our

760
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,960
physical hand we see ourselves as

761
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,080
separate

762
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,840
and we're individual fingers on the hand

763
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:03,200
and but we see ourselves as separate

764
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,799
because we focus on the empty space in

765
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,480
between the two

766
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:08,080
but in truth

767
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,120
what we really are is we all each a

768
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:13,760
knuckle that is connected to the whole

769
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,840
hand which is god in the first place

770
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,279
so basically

771
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:21,360
we're just an extension of that the

772
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,559
wholeness

773
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,000
and then we get to the i guess it's

774
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:25,679
called i might be mistaken the divine

775
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,240
ego where we actually have an identity

776
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,080
and we still can maintain our connection

777
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,080
to the source and then we express it

778
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,480
down on the physical plateau yes

779
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,080
oh yes that's a that's a good way to put

780
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,399
i like to i like the analogy of the

781
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,360
water in the ocean oh absolutely

782
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:43,120
and the that it's really one of the

783
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:45,760
secrets to the whole thing is surrender

784
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:52,230
humility is a difficult thing

785
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:53,520
because

786
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,360
you have to empty your bucket it's sort

787
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,080
of like imagine a five gallon container

788
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:00,960
or imagine a glass and i come to you and

789
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:03,360
it's filled with dirty water that's old

790
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:04,720
and smelly

791
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:07,279
and i say fill my glass

792
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:08,240
well

793
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:09,279
the first thing you're going to say is

794
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,399
we'll dump the old water out because

795
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,640
there's no point in you dumping

796
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,480
fresh clean water into a glass that's

797
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,919
already filled with

798
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,000
dirty water because you're just gonna

799
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:22,159
dilute the dirty water you're not gonna

800
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:24,159
you know it's not gonna help me to drink

801
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,559
water that's half dirty and so

802
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,200
until we're willing to be humble

803
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,200
and empty our cup

804
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:36,000
of what we believe we know what we think

805
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:37,679
is truth

806
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:40,320
that until we have that humility we're

807
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:42,240
always in this position

808
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:43,919
of the ego

809
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:45,760
being in conflict

810
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:47,279
with the vardhan which is the holy

811
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:48,720
spirit

812
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,480
light

813
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:54,480
and can be heard as sound the sound

814
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,440
current

815
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,840
or the audible life stream and it's very

816
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,880
important

817
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:00,880
because there's a wave that issues out

818
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,760
from the godhead or the ocean of mercy

819
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:05,840
that issues out

820
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,080
and this is a wave that consists of

821
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,080
sound and light

822
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:12,399
and it creates it sustains and creates

823
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,440
everything

824
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:15,279
and so we can grab back onto the

825
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,440
returning wave there's a wave that comes

826
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:19,760
down that sustains and creates

827
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,279
and then there's a returning wave that

828
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:23,600
returns back to the godhead and we can

829
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,640
grab onto this returning wave

830
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,559
guess what hollywood

831
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:29,919
i'm here

832
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:32,480
hollywood's got a new host

833
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:34,880
and the stars are shining bright on

834
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,360
steam it'd be okay to just come here

835
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,360
every day for that

836
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:42,080
today premiere week continues with ice

837
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:45,440
cube plus baseball's rally granny makes

838
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,399
the crowd go wild you've never seen

839
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,720
anything like this before

840
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,039
all new steve

841
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:55,840
new york weekdays at 2 for nbc 4 new

842
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:58,399
york and and ride it through the soul

843
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:59,440
projection

844
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:01,120
i i think heather wanted you wanted to

845
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:02,960
see something yeah what it is is the

846
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,200
living barton master the mergotma the

847
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:07,279
sinner master connects or links the

848
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,919
student with this returning sound wave

849
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,399
that returns to god and there's also

850
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:14,000
another thing too and

851
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:15,679
not many people know about this there

852
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,120
are different people that will have

853
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:19,760
experiences of of they'll say i had an

854
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:21,600
experience with god or i had an

855
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:24,720
experience that was in a very high place

856
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:26,320
but one of the things that a lot of

857
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:27,919
people don't know about is on these

858
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,559
different planes each spiritual plane

859
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,799
has a sort of transformer or power

860
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:35,600
matrix that acts as a transformer or

861
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:38,960
lower or lowered vibration version of of

862
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:42,000
you could say god like a roller ruler

863
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,720
and then that ruler has so much light

864
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,640
and power and energy that people will

865
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,880
mistake these different rulers for god

866
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,320
because they'll see it and it looks like

867
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,080
a tremendous light and it will have so

868
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:54,720
much love or so much power to it

869
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,760
and on each of these spiritual planes is

870
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:00,240
something of that form only at a higher

871
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,519
vibration right with uh more spirit and

872
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:05,360
less matter the higher you go everything

873
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:08,480
is about i've learned a lot of this by

874
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,720
i just moved into a house and i went to

875
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:12,399
the attic to see what was up there so i

876
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,080
can clear it out to put my stuff in it

877
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,399
and i found a box and in this box was a

878
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:18,320
book by paul twitch called the tigers

879
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,200
thing oh yeah excellent and i i oh my

880
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,120
god i love that book i said i read it

881
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:24,960
three times consecutively and he

882
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,240
described exactly that on every level

883
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:30,000
there is someone in the seat that

884
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,760
governs what happens on this dimension

885
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,200
we're at the bottom of the hour center

886
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:35,279
of light radio my guest today is heather

887
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,279
jamboy and alan feldman would you please

888
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:39,519
give out your contact information of all

889
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:41,360
sorts so our listening audits could find

890
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:43,120
out more about you and your powerful

891
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:44,320
work uh

892
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:46,640
helping people to return to source

893
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,710
and i should mention that their

894
00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:54,799
long-lineage of masters and paul

895
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,960
twitchell was actually one of the barton

896
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:58,159
masters

897
00:33:03,830 --> 00:32:59,840
and prior to him there were other

898
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,840
masters and um out now uh alan allen who

899
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,760
we're speaking to on this call he is

900
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:07,760
actually the current living pardon

901
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,480
master it's a temporary position yeah

902
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:12,240
bro just being uh honored with the

903
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,720
accommodation position is validation i

904
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:16,640
think

905
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,880
that's a wonderful book yeah so let me

906
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,320
let me ask you greatest books ever

907
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,760
written everything you guys are

908
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,120
describing i've experienced from the

909
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:25,600
higher realms even to the earthly realms

910
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,840
i had a friend of mine some years ago my

911
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:29,760
spiritual mentor who kind of whispered

912
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,360
some metaphysical things in my ear when

913
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:33,440
i needed most in my life he put me

914
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:34,880
what's called through a rebirthing

915
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:37,120
session where you breathe like mad

916
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:38,799
and then you do this for an hour or

917
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,919
however long it takes and i find myself

918
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:43,679
vibrating oh god like i'm plugged into a

919
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:46,000
generator and i black out for like 30

920
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,840
seconds and then i come back and i

921
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,200
didn't have any experience whatsoever

922
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,720
and i assumed that i just fell asleep

923
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,480
for 30 seconds and i woke up

924
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:54,320
the next day i go to a nightclub where i

925
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:55,600
was playing music and a friend of mine

926
00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:59,519
walks in and it all comes back

927
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:02,000
i was in her car

928
00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:04,720
looking down on an event her wiping her

929
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,159
seat with a white towel i was at the

930
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:08,800
dome like consciously and i called her

931
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,919
over to me and i explained to her i was

932
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,960
in your car last night she goes keith

933
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:12,320
you were in my car last night she goes i

934
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:13,520
was with my boyfriend i said when i was

935
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,919
in your car last night she said how so

936
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,280
and she said this is one of those weird

937
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,800
spiritual things i said please play this

938
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:21,119
up with me it's important she said okay

939
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,720
i said i saw you wiping your seat with a

940
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:24,159
piece of white material and i named what

941
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:25,599
she was wearing and all these different

942
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,359
things and of course her face is

943
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,760
starting to drop

944
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:31,679
and tammy is the person everywhere tammy

945
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:32,960
goes she drives she's never the

946
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,440
passenger but also how often are you the

947
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,359
passenger in your own car

948
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,200
it just so happens that day at five

949
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:41,520
o'clock when i had this experience

950
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:44,480
she left the window open in her car that

951
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:46,879
night before it rained she said keith

952
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:49,040
the white towel still in my back seat he

953
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,440
was the one driving my car and yes i was

954
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:53,280
wearing these clothes

955
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:56,399
and that solidified something in me it i

956
00:35:02,870 --> 00:34:59,440
had another layer of freedom via that

957
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:02,880
experience many years ago in my life

958
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:05,839
yeah these these experiences um

959
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,320
can be very dear to us what we find

960
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:10,560
eventually is we learn

961
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,960
to die daily

962
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:14,640
and it's not that we're dying you know

963
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,880
it's not that we're dying literally in

964
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,640
the sense that you know our physical our

965
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,640
heart stops or anything like that

966
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:22,960
but we're dying in consciousness in

967
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,280
going into these other states

968
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,680
and then we return to the body because

969
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:29,359
all this frankly all this exists

970
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,800
simultaneously

971
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,640
right and i'm sure you figured that out

972
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,599
yeah

973
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:35,680
that this is all simultaneous what it

974
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:37,040
gets a little confusing because i'll say

975
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:38,880
when you go here you go there he's like

976
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,520
well if i go there then aren't i i'm not

977
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:43,200
here anymore like

978
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,200
doesn't my heart stop or is there danger

979
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,280
that i'm leaving my body now you know

980
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,160
who's going to watch my body you know

981
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:51,839
yeah and i've heard all those stories

982
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:53,520
and those myths yeah

983
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:56,560
yeah yeah and then people lost it

984
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,599
sorry oh

985
00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:00,160
um part of the process is that

986
00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:00,960
um

987
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,720
the varden masters when they work with

988
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,880
students in a spiritual apprenticeship

989
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:06,720
they bring them through a series of

990
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:09,599
different kinds of spiritual experiences

991
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:12,400
that happen progressively at higher

992
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,040
at a higher level of spiritual planes so

993
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:17,200
when someone is first starting they

994
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,839
might begin by visiting the astral plane

995
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:21,839
of course under protection because i i

996
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,839
wouldn't advise that out of body travel

997
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:25,040
unless you're

998
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,040
studying with somebody who's a true

999
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,280
truly god realized and truly it knows

1000
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,960
how to protect you

1001
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:32,160
um

1002
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,000
and they might start by visiting the

1003
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:36,000
astral plane and there's a temple of

1004
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:37,760
golden wisdom that different pardon

1005
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:40,480
students will visit on the astral plane

1006
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,400
then when they advance oh mention the

1007
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,079
name please

1008
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,640
oh i'm sorry

1009
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:48,240
yeah yeah the names of the different

1010
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:50,720
spiritual planes like for example on the

1011
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:53,040
astral plane there is a temple called

1012
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:54,800
ascliposis

1013
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,160
and and the master there is gopaldas he

1014
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,839
was the master during ancient egypt and

1015
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,440
you can see some beautiful drawings of

1016
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:03,599
these masters if you go to the

1017
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:05,839
vardankar website and then above the

1018
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,320
astral plane when students advance and

1019
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,640
have more out-of-body experiences there

1020
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,720
eventually they graduate the astral

1021
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:14,960
plane to the causal plane which is the

1022
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,359
plane of the akashic records the plane

1023
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,880
of memory where you start to have

1024
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,040
flashes of past lives

1025
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:23,599
and they study at the sachapori golden

1026
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:26,640
wisdom temple with a master named shamus

1027
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,839
de breeze

1028
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,680
and then above that

1029
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:31,680
i forgot to say colors like the causal

1030
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:33,839
plane has a golden orange light

1031
00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:36,079
and then about that is the mental plane

1032
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,079
there are some people that do um instead

1033
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:40,480
of so uh astral travel they do mind

1034
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:43,280
travel but we use the soul body

1035
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:45,520
and there uh students will visit a

1036
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:48,640
temple of golden wisdom called nam yatan

1037
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:50,320
and then above that is etheric plane now

1038
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:51,920
all of these planes are sort of in the

1039
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:54,720
lower worlds they the higher you go the

1040
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,839
incredible the more incredible and

1041
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,760
brilliant the light and the more high

1042
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:01,280
vibration it is

1043
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:04,160
in fact each plane feels so high that it

1044
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:06,240
feels like you've reached the ultimate

1045
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:07,920
when in fact it's still in the worlds of

1046
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:08,960
reincarnation

1047
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:11,680
[Music]

1048
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:14,720
when you both when you're out there in

1049
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:19,589
when you're inside of yourself and

1050
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,280
you're treading over these different

1051
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:23,440
dimensions i'm going to assume something

1052
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:25,839
i'm going to assume that

1053
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:27,280
there's an

1054
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:30,400
automatic knowing that happens between

1055
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:31,839
these different planes when you came

1056
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:34,000
from one and you went to the other let's

1057
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,920
say you you guys hit a new plane and

1058
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:37,920
that you've never been to before or near

1059
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:38,960
experience

1060
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,119
immediately i would think that there's a

1061
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,599
knowing that begins to happen of what's

1062
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,520
happening here what this is where you

1063
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,760
are who's the head of it i mean is there

1064
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:49,680
a knowing that is encrypted with each

1065
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:52,160
place you go to

1066
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:58,550
because knowing this when when when a

1067
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,480
person is like for instance they're in

1068
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,079
the causal plane

1069
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,280
they have this intuition that is so

1070
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,440
close to the soul plane that it feels

1071
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:09,359
like a knowingness where

1072
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:10,880
you're in touch with soul but knowing

1073
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:13,359
this is the faculty of soul which is

1074
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,160
your pure true self a spark of god that

1075
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,480
has no lower bodies no astral body no

1076
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:20,880
physical body no mental body it's just

1077
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:23,040
pure soul and when knowing this you

1078
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,240
don't even have to think about it you

1079
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:26,320
just know something a spirit it's just

1080
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:27,760
natural to you

1081
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,400
and knowing this comes from these you

1082
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:31,920
know true knowingness comes from the

1083
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:34,000
soul plane and above and so when a

1084
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,680
person actually goes beyond the lower

1085
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,760
worlds i just described into the god

1086
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:40,160
worlds which are the worlds of

1087
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,800
total awareness and pure freedom where

1088
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,920
you are

1089
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,440
omnipresent

1090
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,599
on those worlds you have knowingness you

1091
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,680
have beingness and you have seeingness

1092
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,839
in other words you're

1093
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,440
you're totally aware

1094
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:55,520
and that knowingness when you listen to

1095
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:57,359
the knowingness instead of your mind and

1096
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:58,720
your beliefs

1097
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,560
the knowingness will show you how to

1098
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:03,119
take the steps you need to take to move

1099
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,400
towards god

1100
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:06,720
instead of more reincarnations i would

1101
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:09,440
now if you'd like go ahead go ahead

1102
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:12,320
oh another exercise you just read my

1103
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,000
mind

1104
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,839
whenever you're ready you just read my

1105
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:16,960
mind that's what i was getting the first

1106
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,280
one was more of a beginner's exercise

1107
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:21,520
just to get put your big toe in the

1108
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:27,910
so yeah just let's just keith just let

1109
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,040
you know

1110
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:31,040
whenever you're ready oh yeah i'm

1111
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,560
definitely ready and then i would like

1112
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,720
to move on if you guys would uh we could

1113
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:36,400
talk maybe a little bit about your past

1114
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,720
life experience on series

1115
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,359
absolutely so yeah i'm ready for this

1116
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,440
this exercise yeah for sure okay it

1117
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:45,119
would be really helpful if your

1118
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,400
listeners

1119
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,200
had the god loves chart in front of them

1120
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:51,920
if i don't know not everybody's on the

1121
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:53,359
can can surf the net while they're

1122
00:40:59,870 --> 00:40:55,520
listening to your program but if they

1123
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:02,870
v-a-r-d-a-n-k-a-r dot com

1124
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,680
and they'll see a chart

1125
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,520
on page one there's another one there's

1126
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:09,359
a more complicated one but that should

1127
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,200
be sufficient

1128
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,680
and it says the the god heavens worlds

1129
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,000
of ardencar

1130
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:18,079
so i don't know if they found that yet

1131
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,680
but that this will be helpful but anyway

1132
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,280
you find that chart you can print it if

1133
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,030
and what we're going to do is we're

1134
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,880
going to chant

1135
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,400
um

1136
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:29,920
we're going to chant the word hugh which

1137
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:33,200
is an ancient name for god

1138
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:35,040
uh i'll i'll just should i just walk us

1139
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:36,240
through the exercise a little more

1140
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:37,839
comfortably yeah just walk through so

1141
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,720
what we're gonna do is we're gonna

1142
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:39,920
change you and then we're gonna chant

1143
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,720
the names the sounds with the words for

1144
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:44,480
these different planes

1145
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:48,319
and we'll just move up

1146
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,560
in vibration

1147
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,720
so it's a it's it's a simple exercise

1148
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,240
but it's a little this is much more

1149
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,400
advanced but it doesn't you don't really

1150
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:58,079
have to know what to expect in order to

1151
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:59,040
do it

1152
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:00,839
because you're tuning into the

1153
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:03,920
sound so you don't have to have an idea

1154
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,599
what you're doing it's sort of

1155
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:07,359
you just simply follow directions it's

1156
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,640
like making a souffle just do it do what

1157
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,000
the existence

1158
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:13,920
of play right you don't have to know

1159
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:16,000
what eggs are you

1160
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,680
so um okay so

1161
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,319
first thing we do is we sit down

1162
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:22,960
if you can't sit down you can lie in a

1163
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:25,680
bed you know it's better to sit but

1164
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,880
you know back straight if possible

1165
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:30,880
relax

1166
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:32,800
and take

1167
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,760
six deep breaths

1168
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:37,200
preferably do this in a quiet

1169
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,109
and the first thing we're going to do is

1170
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:44,880
we're going to chant

1171
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:48,480
hue like we did before hu

1172
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:51,040
just for a little while

1173
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,160
and then we're going to pause and we're

1174
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,640
going to go on to the next plane

1175
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,640
so we're going to basically chant hue

1176
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,480
and then we're going to go to

1177
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:01,280
alaii which is the physical sound

1178
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,480
and then kala which is the astral sound

1179
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:07,040
and then we're going to chant mana

1180
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:08,800
which is the causal

1181
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:11,200
and then we're going to chant om

1182
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,560
which a lot of people are familiar with

1183
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,240
that's the mental

1184
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,880
and then we're going to chant baju

1185
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:18,880
which is the etheric

1186
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,839
and then we're going to chant hurray

1187
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,800
which is

1188
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,640
each letter individually and that's the

1189
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,119
soul plane and then we're gonna chant

1190
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,160
shanti which is the sixth plane

1191
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:32,000
so that should be that should be enough

1192
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,480
to get your feet wet for sure

1193
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,319
so here we go i hope this isn't too long

1194
00:43:38,829 --> 00:43:37,680
an exercise

1195
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,839
but we'll try to make we'll make it

1196
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:40,400
brief

1197
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:43,119
if that's okay i don't wanna

1198
00:44:20,790 --> 00:43:57,750
h

1199
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:32,710
e

1200
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:45,670
oh

1201
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:47,970
my

1202
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:01,680
[Music]

1203
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:21,240
this is the etheric it's the high mental

1204
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:22,710
[Music]

1205
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:24,440
buzz

1206
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:31,109
now we're going to move to the soul

1207
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,599
plane

1208
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:35,119
h

1209
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:37,280
u

1210
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,280
are

1211
00:45:52,820 --> 00:45:41,440
a

1212
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,830
you

1213
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:54,960
[Music]

1214
00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:01,030
a

1215
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,630
[Music]

1216
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:38,150
shunting

1217
00:47:05,430 --> 00:46:39,860
you

1218
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:07,430
so that was sort of a speeded-up version

1219
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,319
of it obviously do it longer

1220
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:13,599
so what is a person to expect or not

1221
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,640
expect to have happen uh i'm sure this

1222
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:18,640
is like any sort of muscle

1223
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,480
spiritual muscle that it takes time and

1224
00:47:24,550 --> 00:47:22,720
practice to begin to exercise this

1225
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,560
aspect of ourselves for it to expand

1226
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,960
would that be true

1227
00:47:30,550 --> 00:47:28,960
in general however

1228
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,560
anything can happen

1229
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:32,640
what you're doing is you're learning how

1230
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:35,680
to place your awareness and attention

1231
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:39,280
um in a particular place or a vibration

1232
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:40,960
and when you place your attention there

1233
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,680
for instance if a word is resonates with

1234
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:46,160
that vibration or that plane and you're

1235
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,319
chanting it some people will begin doing

1236
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:50,160
this and then they will start to become

1237
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:53,280
conscious of that particular plane they

1238
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,960
might begin to see a certain color of

1239
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,839
light or hear a particular type of sound

1240
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,359
or they might actually

1241
00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:01,520
you know experience seeing

1242
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:02,319
um

1243
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:05,200
you know this heavenly world and certain

1244
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,400
things like they might if they're on the

1245
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:07,920
astral plane they might suddenly see the

1246
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:10,240
astral museum or whatever it is that

1247
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:12,319
comes to them but by learning to place

1248
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,760
our attention

1249
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,359
there we're learning to consciously

1250
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,040
travel there and it's a process of

1251
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:19,920
unfoldment and these these mantras

1252
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,920
calling out these different names these

1253
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,079
are basically like golden keys unlocking

1254
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,559
golden doors right exactly exactly i

1255
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,559
love it love it love it years ago i had

1256
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,640
an experience i was out and about in and

1257
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:32,480
about and when it came to a state of

1258
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,440
awareness this angel had me in her arms

1259
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,119
her him it

1260
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,280
flying down this street and everything

1261
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:42,079
was consumed by this purple fire and i

1262
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,520
knew wasn't a destructive fire and he

1263
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,359
was a divine fire all the buildings were

1264
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:47,839
firing ahead of us and i look over me to

1265
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,240
see who's carrying me flying with me or

1266
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:52,160
flying me and it was an angel and i had

1267
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,839
the prince valiant type look i'm sure

1268
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,440
this is something my mind concocted to

1269
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,440
help me understand what was happening

1270
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,359
but he kind of nods for me to look in

1271
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:00,800
front of where we're going and there's

1272
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,200
this huge uh

1273
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:04,960
tree bigger than any tree i've ever seen

1274
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:07,760
in my life and it's full of this purple

1275
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:08,800
fire

1276
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,359
and he basically smiles and sends me a

1277
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:13,119
message we're about to fly into this

1278
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:15,440
thing keep and so we flew into this jury

1279
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:18,240
and i find myself in a high-rise

1280
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,839
building

1281
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:21,440
multiple times higher than the most

1282
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:23,680
highest building on earth and we on the

1283
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:27,440
top floor and all the walls in this

1284
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,559
penthouse

1285
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:30,400
were made of glass and you can see

1286
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,359
everywhere you can even see the

1287
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,960
curvature of the earth

1288
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,480
and i'm so

1289
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:36,960
giddy because i can float and play in

1290
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,440
the ceiling into the material walls as i

1291
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:41,119
begin to ascend into the ceiling the

1292
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:43,200
angel pulls me down by grabbing my leg

1293
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:44,880
and sits me in on the soap and pats on

1294
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:47,440
the sofa here you go keith sit here and

1295
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:48,800
the phone rings

1296
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,559
and he looks to me and he says aren't

1297
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,920
you going to answer i said what do you

1298
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:53,680
mean answers keith you actually live

1299
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,400
here

1300
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:56,240
so this was a multi-dimensional

1301
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:59,200
experience of another life of mine so i

1302
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:00,800
wanted you guys to talk a little bit if

1303
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:04,319
you can we have about let's see

1304
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,960
10 minutes nine minutes oh tell me about

1305
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:08,880
your experience uh

1306
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:11,119
in your other life with the

1307
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:12,800
and alan you're ooh was that something

1308
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:13,920
that i triggered on you that you wanted

1309
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:16,000
to say at the moment

1310
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,920
oh no no not at all that size is just

1311
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,359
something you can try at home if you

1312
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:21,280
want oh by all means by all means we'll

1313
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:23,200
get surprised that 10 minutes is left

1314
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:24,480
wow

1315
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,359
right

1316
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:27,200
time's an illusion and i'm believe it or

1317
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:28,720
not

1318
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:31,359
you want to talk about the series

1319
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,640
um

1320
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,319
basically what happened was when we were

1321
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,240
writing our book um and we reached the

1322
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:39,760
third chapter we both had this profound

1323
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,559
flash of of seeing what are called the

1324
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,480
soul records which is the heaven of

1325
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,640
self-realization the soul records are

1326
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:48,319
completely different than the akashic

1327
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:51,200
records and they're much more complete

1328
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:52,480
and so

1329
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,440
we saw ourselves in this lifetime um in

1330
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:58,400
that particular life uh on planet series

1331
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,680
allen was

1332
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:01,440
800 years old

1333
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:03,839
which on series uh they have completely

1334
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:06,960
different lifespans so 800 is 800 is

1335
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,970
like a 24 year old

1336
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:09,599
[Laughter]

1337
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,480
and in that particular lifetime i was

1338
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:14,640
like about 4

1339
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,960
800 years old which would be someone in

1340
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:18,960
their 60s

1341
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,599
and we were both practicing the same

1342
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:23,200
exact thing that we're practicing now it

1343
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:25,359
was bardenkar except it had a different

1344
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:26,720
name back then

1345
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,440
um but the purpose of it was

1346
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:31,599
we studied with a in this particular

1347
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:33,760
lifetime on this planet series it's a

1348
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,880
planet that has two luminous suns and it

1349
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:38,960
was a golden age so you know much more

1350
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:42,079
positive and so we wouldn't have these

1351
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,000
meetings i forgot to mention the most

1352
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:45,839
important thing oh yes yes but you were

1353
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,950
and and the purpose was to teach the

1354
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:56,800
students to become masters themselves

1355
00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,240
that they could reach this state called

1356
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:00,400
jaiban mokti which means graduating from

1357
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,160
reincarnation

1358
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:04,000
yeah so they could graduate from

1359
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:05,520
reincarnation

1360
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:08,000
and the wheel of the 84 by learning this

1361
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,000
form of soul projection why is it called

1362
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:12,240
the wheel of 84 what is the significance

1363
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:14,960
of eight and four is it because

1364
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:16,839
it's 12 and it's on four

1365
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:17,920
numbers right

1366
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:19,760
um this might seem a little overwhelming

1367
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,559
or even scary but the 84 implies eight

1368
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,640
million four hundred uh four hundred

1369
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:25,680
thousand

1370
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:26,960
uh

1371
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:28,880
lives i believe that reincarnations

1372
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:32,160
there there are years a year

1373
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,520
you go through all the signs of the

1374
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,000
zodiac one one of the things we teach is

1375
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:38,079
don't don't identify with your present

1376
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,640
incarnation as merger your personality

1377
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:41,920
your sex your

1378
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,760
you know all this stuff because the real

1379
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:45,280
lady before you go you're experiencing

1380
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,400
everything

1381
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,200
well what it is is on this wheel of 84

1382
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,680
which comes to millions of lifetimes you

1383
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:53,680
go through these ages you go through the

1384
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:56,240
golden age of satya yuga which is 1

1385
00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:59,200
million 728 000

1386
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,599
years then there's the silver age where

1387
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,920
it becomes slightly less positive and

1388
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,760
discord a slight amount of discord is

1389
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,240
introduced you know on ancient lemuria

1390
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:09,920
was the golden age so it was a much more

1391
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,800
positive on earth on ancient atlantis

1392
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:15,200
there was more discord introduced

1393
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,359
um and then in copper age it becomes

1394
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,280
half positive and half negative and then

1395
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,760
finally cala yuga which the age we're in

1396
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:24,079
now maybe the golden part i don't know

1397
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,720
um the series was a golden name yeah

1398
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:29,040
towards the end or the

1399
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:30,079
a little bit toward the end of the

1400
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,599
golden age so they have very long

1401
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,520
lifespans um

1402
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,599
you know that they could live uh a

1403
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:37,440
number of thousands of years

1404
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:39,680
and and because of that a lot of the

1405
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,680
students really took their time in terms

1406
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:43,040
of learning because

1407
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,800
sometimes once when a planet is in a

1408
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,400
golden age there feels like there's no

1409
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,319
hurry and it gives this profound

1410
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,160
illusion that you've already reached a

1411
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:52,079
very high level when maybe you've only

1412
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:54,559
been to the astral plane so that was a

1413
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:57,520
big problem that the master had with a

1414
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:59,359
lot of the population with his students

1415
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:02,160
was that this sort of golden age apathy

1416
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,520
where they believed that they would

1417
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,440
reach a high level and just sort of hang

1418
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:07,440
out in the astral plane

1419
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:08,240
so

1420
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:09,280
um

1421
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:12,079
one of the things that that uh we would

1422
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:14,079
do is we would we would meet regularly

1423
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:16,000
as a class every week

1424
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,119
and

1425
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,200
god

1426
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:21,119
and you know alan would be there we knew

1427
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:22,640
each other we were good friends back

1428
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:24,319
then

1429
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:27,599
i would i was i was um

1430
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,920
i was the name of him heather was in a

1431
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:31,520
male in that incarnation and i was a

1432
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:32,400
male

1433
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:35,200
and uh i was his i was a chiller or a

1434
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,480
student of

1435
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,640
of his but i was also

1436
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,559
a um initiate

1437
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:42,480
i was in on the path

1438
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:45,440
and we would study together um we'd all

1439
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:46,720
get into this room and there was

1440
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:49,119
extremely high vibration feeling like

1441
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,760
sparkling particles of light or like

1442
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,520
sort of like ocean air

1443
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:55,839
and we'd i'd open up the shariat which

1444
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,400
is the um book of the masters and it was

1445
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,240
really thick and big it was like about

1446
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,119
what uh uh uh three feet long and two

1447
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:04,880
would imagine so

1448
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:10,069
the serious people were roughly about

1449
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:13,280
what was it 24 feet high total yeah so

1450
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:15,280
we're translating everything into

1451
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:17,839
what i call series feet you know

1452
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,400
so when we say it was that big it was

1453
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:22,240
actually much bigger but it was pretty

1454
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,119
bad relative to uh uh the humans

1455
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,359
and and and sirius had a you know an

1456
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,119
interesting and much more resilient

1457
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,359
anatomy they had two hearts and

1458
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:33,920
anyway that's a long story but um in any

1459
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:35,440
case uh we

1460
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:37,520
we would i'd open up the share yet and

1461
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:40,559
then we would i would we basically the

1462
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,119
students would all study together about

1463
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:45,839
out of body travel and how to reach the

1464
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:47,760
state of this you know reaching the

1465
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:49,920
states of the secrets of jive and multi

1466
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,480
and god realization so

1467
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,720
yes the goals are i would teach them

1468
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,319
about self-realization and god

1469
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,960
realization which is to basically learn

1470
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,799
to consciously dwell

1471
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:02,720
in these much higher levels of heaven

1472
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:04,559
like ellen was talking about the soul

1473
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:07,440
plane and the anami lock which is the

1474
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:09,760
god plane that's the tenth plane so the

1475
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,599
soul plane is the fifth and the anami

1476
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,119
lok and above

1477
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:14,960
is the is the area of qatar rosa in the

1478
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:17,280
10th 11th and 12th and beyond that and

1479
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,599
so what it is is in every era there is

1480
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,839
always a living garden master

1481
00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:23,040
and um

1482
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:25,040
and and what it when one

1483
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:26,880
when one garden master passes then

1484
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:29,839
another broadmaster takes his place and

1485
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,400
he gives souls this opportunity to

1486
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,240
graduate from the lower worlds of

1487
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:36,319
reincarnation may i say did you want to

1488
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,920
hear a little bit about the technology

1489
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,960
and all that i don't know if that's

1490
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,960
something actually i would like to say

1491
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,559
that i'm just so digging this believe it

1492
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:44,960
or not we have two minutes left oh yeah

1493
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,640
let's can we make this a part two and

1494
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,319
get you guys back really soon that would

1495
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:50,720
just be beyond phenomenal

1496
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,720
it sounds fun to me we couldn't extend

1497
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:54,480
it another 10 minutes ago

1498
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:56,960
i wish i i could but the problem is i

1499
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,200
only have an hour window before another

1500
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:01,680
show kicks in could you leave us with

1501
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:03,680
the could you leave us with a final

1502
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,440
thought from each of you quickly because

1503
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:11,190
you want to go first oh you can go oh uh

1504
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:13,440
final thought final thought would be

1505
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,880
um you have to be bold adventurous

1506
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:19,040
and cunning and resourceful

1507
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,359
and you have to love god more than you

1508
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,680
love the things of this world

1509
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,280
if you want to have these experiences

1510
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,599
and they can be achieved even by those

1511
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,839
who aren't bold if you have this love in

1512
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:31,839
your heart for god you can learn to be

1513
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,240
bold but you have you can't the love has

1514
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,160
to be something that's there and no

1515
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,079
matter how spiritually advanced that you

1516
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,880
feel if they truly desire freedom

1517
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:42,960
they can transcend their karma and

1518
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:45,520
transcend reincarnation and graduate

1519
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:47,599
from these worlds of time and space and

1520
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,760
become a conscious co-worker with god

1521
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,839
which is the key yeah

1522
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:53,200
i love the way you guys play off each

1523
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:55,760
other it's phenomenal

1524
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:57,119
i mean you know they'll just chime in

1525
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,960
and out in and out it's great

1526
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,440
heather and alan thank you i'm blessed

1527
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,599
to have met you both and you can bet i'm

1528
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,040
going to put these exercises into

1529
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:06,880
practice and i will keep you posted in

1530
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,829
thank you thank you

1531
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:13,520
it's been wonderful to be on yeah with

1532
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:15,839
you enjoyed it always stay in touch that

1533
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:18,799
door is always open to you both everyone

1534
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:21,520
heather and alan uh you can find more

1535
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,599
about their gorgeous delicious work at

1536
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,760
soul travel agent dot com keith anthony

1537
00:58:31,230 --> 00:58:27,040
blanc

1538
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,670
v-a-r-d-a-n-k-a-r dot com

1539
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:35,520
one more time for me give it up

1540
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,559
oh the

1541
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,280
a-r-d-a-n-k-a-r

1542
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:42,000
dot com and we're on youtube as well

1543
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:43,680
thank you guys much appreciated everyone

1544
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:45,040
keith anthony blanchard your host of

1545
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,960
center of light radio monday night 6 p.m

1546
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:48,720
eastern time you can find me sitting

1547
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,079
here in this captain's chair conducting

1548
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,760
affairs of the heart opening up that

1549
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:53,440
stargate so you can get back home to

1550
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,240
divine parents so you can be liberated

1551
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,920
i look forward to seeing you and next

1552
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,680
week my guess is going to be check this

1553
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,400
out he returns jason quit

1554
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:04,720
this guy is hot on the scene he's an

1555
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:07,599
interdimensional time traveler and he's

1556
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:10,240
very quick-witted he knows his stuff uh

1557
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:11,599
it's kind of like a part two of this

1558
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:13,760
show here with a little different slant

1559
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,200
i look forward to seeing you next week

1560
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:17,119
remember when you have nothing to do at

1561
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:18,640
night since you're laying there

1562
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,839
breathing going to sleep you might as

1563
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,599
well breathe on purpose because when you

1564
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:23,440
do something begins to happen and that

1565
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:25,520
something is a profound deafening

1566
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,000
silence and in that silence is

1567
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:30,400
everything you can possibly imagine that

1568
00:59:40,330 --> 00:59:32,559
you desire and deserve i look forward to

1569
00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:55,349
[Music]

1570
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:57,960
see inside

1571
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:00,880
[Music]

1572
01:00:12,350 --> 01:00:01,310
[Applause]

1573
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:15,829
[Music]

1574
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,760
guess what hollywood

1575
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:19,040
i'm here